Blue Lotus Non US Internet research, Blue Lotus Research Institute

Ying Pan

Blue Lotus Non US Internet research

China growth and global non-US Internet equities

Blue Lotus Research Institute

Blue Lotus Research is a Hong Kong Type 4 Licensed investment advisory firm focusing on Chinese growth equities and global non-US Internet equities

Equity Bottom-Up

Alibaba Group Holding  / Equity Bottom-Up

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<li>BABA reported C3Q23 revenue, non-GAAP operating profit and GAAP net income in-line, 6% and (7%) vs. our est., and in-line, in-line and (14%);</li>
<li>Instead of appointing capable management to oversee key subsidiaries, BABA backpedalled to call off its spin-off plans;</li>
<li>We cut TP from US$ 127 to US$ 72, and downgrade to SELL.</li>
</ul>


BABA reported C3Q23 revenue, non-GAAP operating profit and GAAP net income in-line, 6% and (7%) vs. our est., and in-line, in-line and (14%);
Instead of appointing capable management to oversee key subsidiaries, BABA backpedalled to call off its spin-off plans;
We cut TP from US$ 127 to US$ 72, and downgrade to SELL.


[Alibaba (BABA US, SELL, TP US$72) Rating Change]: The Casualty of Era…Downgrade to SELL

Equity Analyst, LightStream Research

Oshadhi Kumarasiri

Equity Analyst

Long-Short Analysis on Japan, Asia and the World

LightStream Research

LightStream conducts quantitatively rigorous and data-driven analysis with a focus on Japan and Asia.

We consistently cover the Tech, Consumer and Industrial sectors, and provide ECM and Events coverage more broadly.

We supplement traditional qualitative insights from company relationships with a robust quantitative foundation that examines as much historical data as is available.
We further refine the accuracy of our insights and calls through the use of alternative data to flesh out current trends, and through a valuation framework that emphasises non-superficial peer group selection and a proper attempt to understand the metrics and changes that have driven security valuations in the past.

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<li>While <a href="https://www.smartkarma.com/entities/alibaba-group-holding-ltd" target="_blank" data-smartkarma-citation="entities:787:1" rel="noopener">Alibaba (ADR) (BABA US)</a>'s 2Q24 revenue and OP closely matched consensus expectations, the company experienced a significant sell-off, resulting in shares plummeting by over 9% yesterday.</li>
<li>Yesterday's weak performance may be linked to a 10% pre-earnings price surge, anticipating robust results. The postponement of the Cloud Spin-off could also have contributed to the decline.</li>
<li>We maintain a bearish stance on <a href="https://www.smartkarma.com/entities/alibaba-group-holding-ltd-d7b798e2-202d-4e01-9a1e-799e2ae8f0c7" target="_blank" data-smartkarma-citation="entities:28434:1" rel="noopener">Alibaba Group Holding (9988 HK)</a> as we identify other fundamental and structural downside catalysts might become increasingly important and price-sensitive as time progresses.</li>
</ul>


While Alibaba (ADR) (BABA US)'s 2Q24 revenue and OP closely matched consensus expectations, the company experienced a significant sell-off, resulting in shares plummeting by over 9% yesterday.
Yesterday's weak performance may be linked to a 10% pre-earnings price surge, anticipating robust results. The postponement of the Cloud Spin-off could also have contributed to the decline.
We maintain a bearish stance on Alibaba Group Holding (9988 HK) as we identify other fundamental and structural downside catalysts might become increasingly important and price-sensitive as time progresses.


Articles from Caixin Global, Caixin Global

Caixin Global

Articles from Caixin Global

Caixin is a media group dedicated to providing financial and business news through periodicals, online content, mobile apps, conferences, books and TV/video programs. Caixin aims to blaze a trail that helps traditional media prosper in the new media age through integrated multimedia platforms.

News from Caixin

Thematic (Sector/Industry)

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China’s two biggest e-commerce companies reported higher sales from this year’s Double 11 shopping extravaganza, but kept tight-lipped about just how high, as they rolled out discount-heavy strategies to encourage reluctant consumers to spend.
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Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. had offered a slew of discounts to attract shoppers as the recovery in household consumption in the world’s second largest economy <a href="https://www.caixinglobal.com/2023-10-18/chinas-third-quarter-gdp-grows-102117643.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">slowly gained momentum in recent months</a>.
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Alibaba said that both gross merchandise value (GMV) and order amount on Taobao and Tmall from Oct. 24 to Nov. 11 rose from the same period last year.
</li>
</ul>



China’s two biggest e-commerce companies reported higher sales from this year’s Double 11 shopping extravaganza, but kept tight-lipped about just how high, as they rolled out discount-heavy strategies to encourage reluctant consumers to spend.


Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. had offered a slew of discounts to attract shoppers as the recovery in household consumption in the world’s second largest economy slowly gained momentum in recent months.


Alibaba said that both gross merchandise value (GMV) and order amount on Taobao and Tmall from Oct. 24 to Nov. 11 rose from the same period last year.



Alibaba, JD.com Report Double 11 Sales Growth   

Overseas Chinese Equities, Aequitas Research

Ming Lu

Overseas Chinese Equities

IPOs and Placements coverage across Asia Pacific

Aequitas Research

We cover all listing across the Asia Pacific along with follow-up placements. As of Dec 2020, our team had covered 539 IPOs with a hit rate of 73.5% and 685 placements with a hit rate of 66.8%.

We combine fundamental bottom-up views with our proprietary quantitative framework to provide a holistic coverage across new listings and placements. Our coverage includes pre-IPO notes before the deal is launched, follow-up analysis once the deal is live and post-listing trading analysis as well.

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<li>Alibaba’s operating margin rose to 15% in 2Q24 versus 12% in 2Q23.</li>
<li>Every expense as percentage of total revenue decreased and EBITDA of every business line increased.</li>
<li>We believe the reorganization is going smoothly and the stock has an upside of 82%. Buy.</li>
</ul>


Alibaba’s operating margin rose to 15% in 2Q24 versus 12% in 2Q23.
Every expense as percentage of total revenue decreased and EBITDA of every business line increased.
We believe the reorganization is going smoothly and the stock has an upside of 82%. Buy.


Alibaba (9988 HK): 2Q24, Higher Margin Means Smooth Reorganization, Buy

<ul>
<li>BABA/ JD/ PDD/ 1024.HK/ ZTO/ 1519.HK: Double 11 eCommerce update (+)</li>
<li>BABA/BIDU/700HK: Alibaba Cloud crashed for several hours during the weekend (-/+/+)</li>
<li>On November 12, 2023 Alibaba Cloud reportedly crashed for several hours, and in the process resulted in outages for Alibaba services and customer websites that stopped functioning properly.</li>
</ul>


BABA/ JD/ PDD/ 1024.HK/ ZTO/ 1519.HK: Double 11 eCommerce update (+)
BABA/BIDU/700HK: Alibaba Cloud crashed for several hours during the weekend (-/+/+)
On November 12, 2023 Alibaba Cloud reportedly crashed for several hours, and in the process resulted in outages for Alibaba services and customer websites that stopped functioning properly.


[Blue Lotus Daily] BABA/JD/PDD/1024.HK/ZTO/1519.HK/BIDU/Tencent 700.HK

China

Alibaba Group Holding Limited provides online sales services. The Company provides internet infrastructure, electronic commerce, online financial, and internet content services through its subsidiaries. Alibaba Group Holding offers its products and services worldwide.

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Alibaba Group Holding (9988 HK)

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Ming Lu

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[Alibaba (BABA US, SELL, TP US$72) Rating Change]: The Casualty of Era…Downgrade to SELL

​Alibaba's Q3 revenue and profit were in line with expectations, but the company cancelled its spin-off plans and we have downgraded our rating to...

Blue Lotus Research Institute

Alibaba: Our Take on 2QFY24

While Alibaba's 2Q24 revenue and OP closely matched consensus expectations, the company experienced a significant sell-off, resulting in shares...

Oshadhi Kumarasiri

Alibaba, JD.com Report Double 11 Sales Growth

China’s two biggest e-commerce companies reported higher sales from this year’s Double 11 shopping extravaganza, but kept tight-lipped about just...

Caixin Global

Alibaba (9988 HK): 2Q24, Higher Margin Means Smooth Reorganization, Buy

Alibaba’s operating margin rose to 15% in 2Q24 versus 12% in 2Q23. Every expense as percentage of total revenue decreased and EBITDA of every...

Ming Lu

[Blue Lotus Daily] BABA/JD/PDD/1024.HK/ZTO/1519.HK/BIDU/Tencent 700.HK

​Double 11 eCommerce update;Alibaba Cloud reportedly crashed for several hours during last weekend, third-party Alibaba Cloud Customers were also...

Blue Lotus Research Institute

Alibaba's Q3 revenue and profit were in line with expectations, but the company cancelled its spin-off plans and we have downgraded our rating to...

Double 11 eCommerce update;Alibaba Cloud reportedly crashed for several hours during last weekend, third-party Alibaba Cloud Customers were also...